From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: scs@eskimo.com (Steve Summit) Subject: Re: Any research putting c above ada? Date: 1997/04/11 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 232334389 Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: eskimo.com References: <5ih6i9$oct$1@waldorf.csc.calpoly.edu> <5il225$8e3$9@halon.vggas.com> Organization: schmorganization Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-04-11T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <5il225$8e3$9@halon.vggas.com>, JYoungman@vggas.com (James Youngman) writes: >In article , rich@kastle.com says... >>kgoldin@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Konstantin B. Goldin) writes: >>> Is there any research out there, that, comparing c and ada, (or c++ and >>> ada), gives advantage to the c side? >> >> Here's a bit of research you can do yourself. >> Can you go to the computer store and buy Microsoft Visual Ada 5.0? >> Borland Turbo Ada? Watcom Ada 4.0? Can you find *anybody's* Ada >> compiler at the local Comp USA store? No. > > And Richard Krehbiel thinks that this means that C is better than Ada > in what way exactly? CompUSA pushers will say anything to justify > their religion. Grin. Seriously, though (and this is probably so obvious I don't even need to post it), the can-you-buy-it-at-your-local-computer- "super"store test proves nothing. Or if anything (and bear in mind when I say this that I'm about as big a C pusher as they come) it proves that Ada is superior. Where can you get the better kitchen tools or appliances, at K-mart or at a big-city downtown restaurant supply? Where can you get the better hand and power tools, at the local cheapie hardware store or at Sears or at an equipment wholesaler deep in the heart of the industrial district that only the tradesmen know about? (Hey, Crafstman tools are good, but if you want a good Milwaukee 1/2 inch drill, or one of their insane sawzalls, you're probably not going to find it at Sears. If only I had hundreds of dollars to blow on power tools...) I'm always pleasantly surprised to see a C compiler in a computer store, or a C book in a general bookstore, but I wouldn't blame either of these stores for not carrying C titles (let alone Ada), because they're not exactly mass-market. Steve Summit scs@eskimo.com