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From: smosha@most.fw.hac.com (Stephen M O'Shaughnessy)
Subject: Re: What's the best language to start with? [was: Re: Should I learn
 C or Pascal?]
Date: 1996/08/08
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In article <01bb84b4$75304ce0$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com>, 
tim@airshields.com says...
>
>
>Easily learned. Later. More important to understand the
>procedural nature of the computer at first.
>
I view my computer(s) more as a standard tool to solve problems.  Like the drill
in my garage.  I don't need to know the voltage and current rating of an electric
drill to use it,  BECAUSE most house wiring is standardized and the drill is
designed to work with house wiring.  The same can be said of HLLs, they
standardize away (abstract) the details of the computer that I do not need
to be concerned with.  This is not to say these details are not important.  When
my drill starts tripping circuit breakers I have a problem that needs to be 
solved. 

My point is that I take exception to the Tim's claim that we need to learn the
computer "first".