From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fc89c,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc89c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: jerry@jvdsys.nextjk.stuyts.nl (Jerry van Dijk) Subject: Re: What's the best language to start with? [was: Re: Should I learn C or Pascal?] Date: 1996/08/04 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 172309459 references: <01bb8023$4bfe7a80$96ee6fcf@timhome2> <4u19gq$f1g@solutions.solon.com> <320433CE.6D5A@online.no> <4u1g29$hc0@solutions.solon.com> organization: * JerryWare HQ * followup-to: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.ada newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-08-04T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Peter Seebach (seebs@solutions.solon.com) wrote: : True. I would actually be inclined to think that people should be exposed : to hex and binary, because these are, themselves, useful *abstractions*. I know, I shouldn't allow myself to be dragged into this, but... I keep wondering if age/background might have something to do with the positions taken. Me, I first learned about programming using a 4004 front panel system. And I tend to agree with the 'abstractions first' school of thought. Anyway, future student generations will be thankfull that we are programmers not educators :-)) (Well, most of us :-)