From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,12f4d07c572005e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: ff6c8,12f4d07c572005e3 X-Google-Attributes: gidff6c8,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,12f4d07c572005e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,12f4d07c572005e3 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public From: bs@research.att.com (Bjarne Stroustrup <9758-26353> 0112760) Subject: Re: Java Risks (Was: Ada News Brief - 96-05-24 Date: 1996/06/06 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 158770477 references: <4omoh4$k0f@ansible.bbt.com> <31B2B06A.43FE@lmtas.lmco.com> <4p0njd$9a4@isnews.csc.calpoly.edu> organization: Info. Sci. Div., AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.sw.components,comp.object,comp.software-eng Date: 1996-06-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: wbrooks@lwaxana.acs.calpoly.edu (Bill Brooks) writes > In article <31B2B06A.43FE@lmtas.lmco.com>, > Ken Garlington wrote: > >Brian N. Miller wrote: > >> > >> > >> A disbelieve that C++ is evolving awkwardly. Is there a publication > >> which claims so? Or is this 2-bit usenet opinion? ;') > > > >See Plauger's comments in Embedded Systems Programming, for example. > >(I'm not sure why an opinion in a publication is necessarily better > >than one on the Internet, but nonetheless, there it is...) > > > > I too tend to disbelieve claims that C++ is evolving awkwardly, but > anyone who hasn't seen the reams of material published on > this topic must be living under a rock! The number of articles on the > error-proness of C++ exception handling alone could supply all the > material for a graduate level seminar. > > Start out with: The Evolution of C++: Language Design in the > Marketplace of Ideas, 1993, edited by Jim Waldo, which traces > the history of C++ from USENIX conferences to today's most popular > OOPL. Waldo concludes that the language at one point had a clear > design center, but that it doesn't now. For a contrary view see Bjarne Stroustrup: The Design and Evolution of C++ Addison Wesley ISBN 1-201-54330-3 by and large I think the committee has done an excellent job and that ISO C++ will be a close approximation of what I hoped for. - Bjarne