From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,93594143658b43c2 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: digitig@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Tim Rowe") Subject: Re: Ada puff piece Boeing 777 "major disappointment" Date: 1996/03/16 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 142956707 references: <4ib8va$fl3@fred.netinfo.com.au> organization: Compulink Information eXchange x-news-software: Ameol newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-03-16T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: The standard I quoted (Draft IEC 1508) is a *system* standard, not a software standard (software is specifically addressed in part 3), and the claim limits apply even (IIRC) in the presence of error-tolerant software. AFAICS (and it matches my own experience) part of it is down to the idea that in a system as complicated as modern ones, you don't even know what you *want* it to do to a confidence better than 1-1*10^5. I think the solution *is* self evident, or at least part of the basic training of all engineers in disciplines other than software, as "KISS". (Keep It Simple, Stupid!) digiTig (Tim Rowe)