From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,be23df8e7e275d73 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-30 01:12:21 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!193.251.151.101!opentransit.net!proxad.net!feeder2-1.proxad.net!nnrp5.proxad.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "nicolas" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <9jh2cs$aon$1@s1.read.news.oleane.net> <2sU67.1485$di7.4670499@nnrp3.proxad.net> <9jhb8u$g3s$1@s1.read.news.oleane.net> <3B5C4A92.647FC2EC@earthlink.net> <2bb77.5186$DL4.5097616@nnrp5.proxad.net> <3B5D5B79.F2DC527E@earthlink.net> <3B5DCE74.C12AA2D8@earthlink.net> <1Zu77.187$EF5.315498@nnrp1.proxad.net> <9jp5eo$e2b$2@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> <9jrdl3$mh2$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> <%hb87.917$%w2.3730577@nnrp3.proxad.net> <9jrt62$38t$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B619A6D.5DD6E782@home.com> Subject: Re: Java portability X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:12:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.101.131.241 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net X-Trace: nnrp5.proxad.net 996480739 195.101.131.241 (Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:12:19 CEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:12:19 CEST Organization: Guest of ProXad - France Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10719 Date: 2001-07-30T08:12:19+00:00 List-Id: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" a �crit dans le message news: 3B619A6D.5DD6E782@home.com... > I'd like to offer a slightly different "analogy" : > > _flamesuit on_ > > The shopper looks at the Ada car, and notices that it has seatbelts and > of course 4 doors on it. The programmer says, but I don't want to be > restrained from accessing the outdoors -- I go through drive-throughs > a lot.. > > The shopper than goes down the street and settles on the C++ car > which does not have the restrictive seat belts, and of course, > _NO_ doors to get in the way ;-) The Java car has seatbelts, but > no doors... > > _flamesuit off_ > I wouldn't see good and easy to use debuggers, standard libraries, GUI, IDE coming with the compiler, etc ... as tools going against safety concerns .... Good luck if you want to convince Java or C++ programmers ... It could be a lot of fun, but I'm not sure they will even listen to you. The point is that, whatever good is the language, I dont see how Ada could justify not to provide elementary stuff expected by almost every programmer. There is no safety concern about that.