From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,49080e6fcab71cd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Subject: Re: ADA experienced software engineer - great employment opp... Date: 2000/07/13 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 645741178 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8kfdk9$met$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <396B8532.49380005@lmco.com> <2A763C24B6CCB82B.62A0D3FAA050C23A.56CD7B9F34A87413@lp.airnews.net> <396c8e63.8005125@news.gwtc.net> X-Orig-Message-ID: <8kjb2q$f8q@library2.airnews.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Time: Wed Jul 12 21:55:22 2000 Organization: Neosoft (using Airnews.net!) NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library2.airnews.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Abuse-Reports-To: abuse at airmail.net to report improper postings Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-07-13T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In <396c8e63.8005125@news.gwtc.net> marc mandel wrote: > > Robert (and others), > > Then perhaps you can tell me what I am doing wrong... > > I _am_ very interested in avionics / real-time / distributed computing > / defense industry type work. Much like the other responder I can tell you that getting past the HR types in large aerospace companies is a bear. Talking directly with the technical managers is the best way to gain entree but then HR wants to shield those people and do their job. I could tell my personal horror stories but instead, let me suggest that you use whatever personal contacts you have at the companies, try and talk to project managers instead of HR and write follow up letters. Also, don't appear too desparate. And if a less than perfect job comes up, take it. Getting that first 1-2 years experience is the key. Then you can move onto jobs that you consider ideal. Right now I hear Boeing in Seattle, LockMart in Denver, Raytheon in Tucson and, of course, Rockwell Collins in Cedar Rapids are hiring. Also, most of these firms now have web sites you can type in skills or locations and find a list of openings. I don't tailor my resume but I do adapt my cover letter to stress what the potential employer needs. > I went to a job fair in Santa Clara this last March and saw 200+ > booths that had 'Pre-IPO" and "Web/E-commerce" banners. These booths I once worked a job fair for Mother Martin there. Every recruiting trip I was sent on, I was paired with a HR guy. Try to to talk to the technical guy, not the HR guy. Good luck. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love rlove@neosoft.com ----------------------------------------------------------------