From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,9f99a3f96959058c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1995-02-07 06:12:23 PST Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Path: swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news2.near.net!news3.near.net!noc.near.net!inmet!henning!stt From: stt@henning.camb.inmet.com (Tucker Taft) Subject: Re: L'OBJET: A new journal (in French) on object technology. Message-ID: Sender: news@inmet.camb.inmet.com Organization: Intermetrics, Inc. References: <3g66i5$bmb@vienna.eiffel.com> <3gb2bi$20o@crchh327.bnr.ca> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 14:10:00 GMT Date: 1995-02-07T14:10:00+00:00 List-Id: In article , Paul English wrote: > ... >OK, now for the Australian perspective. > >>From the Macquarie Student Writers Guide: > >---- begin quote ---- >-ise/-ize: >Many words can be spelled with either -ise or -ize at the end. For >the sake of consistency, you should decide to use either -ise or -ize >in all such words. > >In the past, people have sometimes argued for one spelling or the >other in a particular word because of its history. But the arguments >are never clear-cut, and it is simpler to spell all one way or the >other. Still, there are one or two points to note. > >1. If you choose -ise, as Australian newspapers and most government >offices do, you can use it in every case except capsize. It is the >only exception. > >2. If you choose -ize as most Americans and some Britons and >Australians do, you have to remember quite a large number of >exceptions. There can, for example, be no -ize in: > advise chastise comprise compromise > demise devise despise enterprise > exercise improvise revise surprise > supervise televise > Actually, my daughter's (American) spelling book indicates a relatively simple rule -- if you drop the ize/ise and you still have a word (perhaps after adding back a "-y") then use "ize"; otherwise use "ise." All of the above "exceptions" clearly follow this rule. Basically "-ize" is a (relatively modern) verb-forming suffix, whereas words ending in "-ise" were usually produced by more normal etymological processes from longer (and older) words. > ... >So there you have it, depending on your perspective it is less a >matter of right and wrong, and more a matter of either efficiency or >laziness! ;) ... This may be one of the few cases where Americans are less lazy than the average English-speaking person. >Paul. > >-- > ,-_|\ | Paul English (p.english@nepean.uws.edu.au) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >/ \ | Associate Lecturer | PO Box 10 | Ph: +61 47 36 0607 >\_.--_/ <- | Department of Computing | Kingswood 2747 | Fax: +61 2 678 5570 > v | UWS - Nepean | NSW, AUSTRALIA | -Tucker Taft stt@inmet.com