From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, PLING_QUERY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,b6d862eabdeb1fc4 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeed2.telusplanet.net!newsfeed.telus.net!edtnps82.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: Duke Normandin Subject: Re: Ada noob here! Is Ada widely used? References: <0e88de66-128c-48fd-9b9f-fdb4357f318a@z17g2000vbd.googlegroups.com> <22aKn.4575$Z6.3399@edtnps82> <8d5dbf6e-81fe-4419-aaad-118921a47b4a@q23g2000vba.googlegroups.com> <82ocg5r7w5.fsf@stephe-leake.org> User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (Darwin) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 13:20:35 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 75.154.111.10 X-Trace: edtnps82 1274707235 75.154.111.10 (Mon, 24 May 2010 07:20:35 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 07:20:35 MDT Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:11920 Date: 2010-05-24T13:20:35+00:00 List-Id: On 2010-05-24, Stephen Leake wrote: > Duke Normandin writes: > >> On 2010-05-23, Jeffrey R. Carter wrote: >>> Bruno Le Hyaric wrote: >>>> >>>> One question, why did Lockheed Martin choose C++ for avionics software >>>> on the JSF aircraft project? >>> >>> Money. >>> >>> Most US Defense project contracts are set up so the contractor makes more money >>> the more the project costs. A poor but "popular" language choice, lots of >>> coders, and no SW engineers is one way to drive the cost up and make more money. >>> Defense contractors have maximizing the profit down to a fine art. >>> >> >> That's outright scary when you ponder all the implications. So much for >> using the "right tool, for a particular task". Greed, greed, and more greed >> is what is putting us at at risk in this embedded computer age. > > It's not the contractor's fault; it's the DOD's fault. If they wrote the > contract so that the contractor made more money by using the right tools > and writing good software, that's what would happen. I don't buy it! If if can't make money using the correct tool for the job, thereby generating a safe, workable product, then don't bid the job! Then go out and get provably safe technology, and the best people that you can to use it. Work ethics and pride of workmanship, two values that have gone out the door for the most part, along time ago. Now its all about marketing, shmooze(sp), packaging and making as much money with the least effort. It's all a bunch of bullshit, and so are the products. > It's the contractor's job to make as much money as possible; it's the > client's job to set the terms of the contract. Spoken like a true capitalist bean-counter - which is OK provided you are not screwing up the environment, and otherwise endangering people's lives and well-being in the process. -- Duke *** Tolerance becomes a crime, when applied to evil [Thomas Mann] ***