From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,d915617c76bdc179,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,d915617c76bdc179,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-12-13 12:59:26 PST Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp Path: bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!uw-beaver!pattis From: pattis@cs.washington.edu (Richard Pattis) Subject: Marketing Ada: Is the Sky Falling? Message-ID: Summary: We are not alone Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 19:48:09 GMT Xref: bga.com comp.lang.ada:8573 comp.lang.lisp:4383 Date: 1994-12-13T19:48:09+00:00 List-Id: The new issue of ACM LISP Pointers just arrived, with a nice article by Richard E. Waters titled, "The Survival of Lisp: either we share, or it dies". It explains the "C/C++ versus the World" battle from the view of [one person from] the LISP community. There are interesting parallels to what is going on in the Ada community. Is the dominance of C/C++ making all other languages marginal, leading them to an accelerating spiral of decline. Will these language survive? Will they survive in niche markets but not prosper (too few companies devoting too little effort to improving products)? Is this the equivalent of "survival of the fitest" or "language genocide"? We already know the PC implications [pun intended] of such a course of events. Maybe it is time for a serious meeting to discuss how to contain C/C++, not because it is a bad language [insert your own version of a smiley here], but because we don't want it to grow so large that it becomes the only well-supported language. Rich -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Richard E. Pattis "Programming languages are like Looking for a Job pizzas - they come in only "too" size: too big and too small.