From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,63a94c70213d8a02,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-11-30 20:35:24 PST Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Path: bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!uunet!world!srctran From: srctran@world.std.com (Gregory Aharonian) Subject: Off the record, Pentagon "admits" its apathy to Ada Message-ID: Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 04:34:27 GMT Date: 1994-12-01T04:34:27+00:00 List-Id: One of the problems of suppressing dissent over Ada policy and management is that reality tends to be put aside for genuflecting. Has the majority of the DoD rejected Ada? Officially no, unofficially probably yes, especially since the DoD has consistently refused to measure programming language use inside the DoD. Consider then the following article that appeared in the October 21 issue of the "Inside the Air Force" newsletter, page 7 (Ada pablum left out, "^^^" are mine): "The DoD's choice of Ada for use in weapon system programs has caught on very slowly among the services, despite initial ^^^^^^^^^^^ hopes that Ada would reduce costs and smooth complications in software maintenance throughout the DoD, Pentagon officials and industry observers are saying. It is hoped, however, that Ada9X, could make Ada more competitive and more commonly used across DoD and the services, one DoD official said. Contributing to the sluggishness with which Ada has been adopted ^^^^^^^^^^^^ by DoD is a relative lack of software developers who are well versed in the primarily military-oriented language. Ada is a "very experience demanding language", for which there is a steep learning curve, a fact that has not enticed a large pool of programmers to learn what is considered a quite specialized skill. "Not many people speak Ada", said one source. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The use of Ada has "never really [been] institutionalized" by ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DoD, which had intended Ada to be a common software language for its weapon systems programs, according to a source. A complicating factor has been that it is not very cost-effective to update programs written in other languages to Ada, according to the DoD official. "We are still maintaining older programs in legacy code", the official said. The programming difficulties associated with Ada were intended to be offset by the benefits of improved maintainability and reusability of Ada software, according to one observer. However, in an environment of declining budgets with relatively few new weapons programs, there is not much increase in potential users for Ada, a DoD source said. I would like to know who these DoD officials are, and why their comments have to be made anonymously. I thought we were living in the new era of "Ada openness" kicked off at the Ada Summit. Because between the lines, their comments imply that the majority of the DoD, fifteen years into Ada, isn't using Ada. It might help if these DoD officials also point out that it doesn't aid DoD efforts to use Ada when you have Air Force efforts like KBSA, the non-Ada AI CASE effort that everyone refuses to examine in light of the Ada Mandate, or when the DoD service research agencies fund mostly non-Ada efforts. How do you expect people to learn the "difficult" Ada language if you are paying them to program something else? But I suppose if I am too stupid to analyze the raw data of the AJPO survey, I am too stupid to analyze anything else. Greg Aharonian