From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,fa07350fd81f7563 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,fa07350fd81f7563 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,80e8e0df8032d89e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-10-15 12:09:46 PST Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.object Path: bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!ois!beckwb From: beckwb@ois.com (R. William Beckwith) Subject: Re: Is C/C++ the future? Message-ID: Followup-To: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.object Organization: Objective Interface Systems, Inc. X-Newsreader: TIN version 1.2 PL2 References: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 17:01:01 GMT Xref: bga.com comp.lang.ada:6951 comp.lang.c++:32914 comp.object:7390 Date: 1994-10-15T17:01:01+00:00 List-Id: John Barton (jjb@watson.ibm.com) wrote: : In article , beckwb@ois.com (R. William Beckwith) writes: : |> Bernie Thompson (bernie_thompson@bocaraton.ibm.com) wrote: : |> : The judgements here are that use of anything other than C++ would be : |> : rejected by the marketplace. : |> : |> You guys are going to miss the boat with this kind of thinking. : |> Watch out. Your competition thinks Ada is a crucial technology : |> and market. You've been warned. : Hmm...I thought CORBA IDL was going to make all OO languages : work together. Then the new OO world would be divided into Microsoft : OLE and CORBA, not into SmallTalk, C++ and Ada, etc. By the way, : how's the Ada/OLE binding coming along? Yes. CORBA IDL holds the goal of transparent interoperability between languages. However, there is not yet interoperability between all ORB products. Thus, each ORB vendor must support your language of choice. I was speaking in the context of IBM as an ORB vendor. I think a lot more people will use Ada now that they _can_. As the O/S's and products of the future define their interfaces in IDL, the benefits of Ada's natural strengths are combined with a clean, natural interface to GUI's, DBMS's, O/S's, etc. Regarding Microsoft, actually OLE does not compete with CORBA, COM does. An OLE interface could be defined with IDL. A IDL to Ada mapping committee member mentioned to me that DEC and IONA had such products. Thus, the Ada/OLE binding is not necessary. Any ORB vendors Ada/IDL product would translate the OLE IDL into a usable Ada interface. Microsoft made a presentation at the Dublin OMG meeting regarding the interfacing of COM and CORBA. While they seemed to irritate a few folks with their approach, I think most were pleased to see Microsoft actively participate. ... Bill -- e-mail: Bill.Beckwith@ois.com | Team Ada Objective Interface Systems, Inc. | dist, full O-O 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 250 | multithreading Reston, VA 22091-5448 U.S.A. | built in