From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,517611567e1815f2 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: pmartin@mail.earthlink.net (Pascal F. Martin) Subject: Re: Java momentum slowing ? Date: 1999/05/09 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 475941711 References: <372b0ec7.28153993@news2.ibm.net> <3728E60E.F789FD8@uq.net.au> <37299369.83779478@news2.ibm.net> <7gdlca$2j5l@drn.newsguy.com> <372f0ed9.104817048@news2.ibm.net> <7ghad5$1mma@drn.newsguy.com> <372d6106.5099983@news2.ibm.net> <7gsk7k$5fr@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <37333a43.181207462@news.mindspring.com> <7h399g$4nb@drn.newsguy.com> <3735DEB0.5D2FDB05@Botton.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: clnws01.we.mediaone.net 926282594 24.130.92.251 (Sun, 09 May 1999 13:43:14 PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 13:43:14 PDT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-05-09T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Thanks for the information. Most of the links you refer to are listed as "unstable", "usable" or "in development": too bad.. In addition, none of these bindings is part of the Ada standard: there is simply _no_ Ada standard here, while Java does have a standard (albeit quite unstable: AWT, then SWING, then what else ?). BTW, Java is not a scripting language: you need to use a compiler. Maybe you confused with javascript ? The main points I wanted to make is that the argument "the language X is more portable than Y" is invalid without a distinction between language and environment, and that people are comparing the Ada language with another language + environment: apple with orange. If a valid comparison is to be made, it should compare similar features. As a conclusion, having used Ada for 7 years, I am still surprised how immature are some language zealots. The fact that Ada is a good language does not mean it is problem-free, or a silver bullet. I still remember the silly thread "The Ariane 5 rocket would have not crashed if it had been programmed in PL/1". A language is just a tool. No program is going to be more robust or portable than its design allows it to be (intentionally or not: I have seen easily portable designs that was not intended to be). PS: Is anyone knows any language where I can open "foo" and "Foo" with the same result on any OS ? The file name syntax & rules is still one of the sticky portability problem. I have had a few bugs because of problems like that. In article <3735DEB0.5D2FDB05@botton.com>, David Botton writes: > I think you need to see: > > TASH - TCL/TK bindings for Ada > > http://tash.calspan.com/ > > [...] -- Pascal F. Martin.