From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border1.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border4.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!news2.euro.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!87.79.20.101.MISMATCH!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Bill Findlay Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada advocacy Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:43:12 +0100 Message-ID: References: <19595886.4450.1332248078686.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbfy7> <2012032020582259520-rblove@airmailnet> <12ee9bc5-3bdf-4ac0-b805-5f10b3859ff4@googlegroups.com> <6c58fae4-6c34-4d7a-ab71-e857e55897c0@x6g2000vbj.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net Qc56vJnnR1lOy3VKlPmIggIv7DkLQJXWv2rGMybqaVUb/XGRKa Cancel-Lock: sha1:i/DW2aH8zY9QMyNL5i5Sgj91Dg4= User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.33.0.120411 Thread-Topic: Ada advocacy Thread-Index: Ac5sS02QyjIm+dl/XEGpFFJBfhNfRA== X-Original-Bytes: 2512 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:181923 Date: 2013-06-18T18:43:12+01:00 List-Id: On 18/06/2013 18:15, in article wccvc5b49yc.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com, "Robert A Duff" wrote: > Peter Brooks writes: > >> On Jun 18, 3:28 am, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >>> >>> >>>         Ada was basically the first LANGUAGE that defined multi-tasking IN >>> THE >>> LANGUAGE itself. Before it, one had to use OS specific system calls to >>> create tasks -- if such a call was even available, in contrast to creating >>> processes at the command line level. >>> >> The second. Algol68 did. Not to mention PL/I. > Others, too. Per Brinch-Hansen's Concurrent Pascal, for example. It > has something-like Ada tasks (no rendezvous; no big loss), and > something-like Ada protected objects (without barriers -- that's > a big loss). Do you mean conditional critical regions? They did have barriers, but Brinch Hansen and Hoare differed as to whether they should be anchored at the start, e.g.: region V await C do ... end region; or should be allowed anywhere inside the region construct: region V do ... await C; ... end region; -- Bill Findlay with blueyonder.co.uk; use surname & forename;