From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 23 Jul 93 22:53:48 GMT From: att-out!cbnewsl!willett@rutgers.edu (david.c.willett) Subject: Re: Anyone else actually like Ada? Message-ID: List-Id: >>From article <1993Jul23.122525.26017@hellgate.utah.edu>, by matwood%peruvian.c s.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood): {Some material deleted} > I hate the politics and hypocracy in the DoD world, and am offended by the > people I meet who think that all they need to know about it is that "the > DoD designed it, you know what THAT means (roll eyes)." But I love the > language that it so readable and comprehensable, and expressive enough to > say damn near everything that everyone else needs OS calls, nonstandard > extensions, or knowledge of the compiler/runtime/hardware to hack together. > > Am I so strange? > > -- > Mark Atwood | My school and employer have enough problems > matwood@peruvian.cs.utah.edu | without being blamed for mine. > I don't think you're strange at all for liking Ada, Mark. It's unfortunate that elaborating on why I believe that would probably start another flame war. I became an Ada "disciple" (if that's what people want to call us) when I saw how easily a multi-vendor project coded by geographically dispersed development teams integrated. I was an integration engineer on the project and was braced for trouble. Amazingly, there was none. The real reason for our integration success was good software engineering discipline, not simply Ada; but the language compelled (coerced) the reluctant into practicing the discipline :^). I'm convinced that Ada is on target by enforcing the SE discipline at the language level since developers permit the compiler to be the bad guy and compilers don't respond to external (e.g. cost/schedule) influence. -- Dave Willett AT&T Federal Systems Advanced Technologies If you want to know --- ASK! -- Linda Ellerbee