From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 16 Jun 93 13:33:04 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!caen!uvaarpa!murdoch!holme s.acc.Virginia.EDU!dtl8v@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Douglass T. Lamb) Subject: Re: Data shows Top 50 Software Vendors not using Ada Message-ID: List-Id: In article <1993Jun16.095953.18705@cfmu.eurocontrol.be>, ian@cfmu.eurocontrol.b e (Ian Wild) writes: |> dtl8v@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Douglass T. Lamb) says: |> >... but in Europe, for instance, Ada is far more widely used than C, ... |> |> As it stands, this statement is not true of any Europe I've ever seen. Have |> I missed some qualifying context somewhere? A brief scan of the job ads |> here shows C/C++ still hugely more in demand than Ada. (Of course, both |> are way behind COBOL.) |> |> ian Forgive me if I erred in my statement. It seems to me the volume of data and of publications in and on Ada are vastly higher in Europe than in the U.S. European contracters have used Ada in building aerospace and train systems (for instance, the European Airbus and the [now-defunct?] European Fighter Aircraft), research systems, nuclear systems, you name it. It appears from the literature that Ada is far more widely taught, as are software engineering and software validation principles, but how a typical European school's curriculum compares to a typical American school's, I couldn't say. Several authors have been led to make the following statement: "In the European computer engineering community, Ada has become the de facto standard for _____ (you fill in the blank) systems," where various answers are safety- critical, real-time, reliable, or distributed/multiprocessing. -- Doug lamb@Virginia.EDU U.Va. Dept. of Electrical Engineering All uncited opinions herein, express or implied, reflect the position of no other organization or individual than myself.