From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,23c0de5a42cf667e X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder2.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!83.128.0.11.MISMATCH!news-out1.kabelfoon.nl!newsfeed.kabelfoon.nl!bandi.nntp.kabelfoon.nl!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "(see below)" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT packages in Linux distributions Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:29:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4be97bea$0$2966$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> <1p87qdlnjbufg.127laayhrw9x3$.dlg@40tude.net> <4j73xhgimt6r$.pu55kne2p2w5$.dlg@40tude.net> <4c09047d$0$6976$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 4s/uoPf3UT3UKH9UwxfyFQbI4N4WImFpu2GJUMUxMHy+tAkKas Cancel-Lock: sha1:In8S2sQ1aUDnSsF/pc1tLBTs6OM= User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.23.0.091001 Thread-Topic: GNAT packages in Linux distributions Thread-Index: AcsD+rfEDGNlcp8ioEa2XXTV8gnO1w== Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:12254 Date: 2010-06-04T16:29:27+01:00 List-Id: On 04/06/2010 14:49, in article 4c09047d$0$6976$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net, "Georg Bauhaus" wrote: > On 03.06.10 15:49, (see below) wrote: >> On 03/06/2010 04:16, in article op.vdpfdcgoxmjfy8@garhos, "Yannick Duch�ne >> (Hibou57)" wrote: >> >>> Le Thu, 27 May 2010 17:21:57 +0200, (see below) >>> a �crit: >>>> My experience is that CS/SE students always focus on "coding" at the >>>> expense >>>> of problem analysis, program design, project planning, verification, >>>> validation, documentation, and anything else they find less congenial. >>> I always though this was not so much with these students. So why do they >>> choose it if they are not aware of what it requires ? >> >> They are aware. That makes no difference. > > Coding invariables makes me think of a tricky(?) question: > What should a language look like that naturally makes the programmer > think before coding, and take his/her time? I don't think this has anything to do with PL design. It is to do with competence, and a professional attitude. Programmers who possess those qualities work well, even in C. -- Bill Findlay chez blueyonder.co.uk