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From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)
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Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping
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In article <M95%b.8327$ee3.380889@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <warren@ve3wwg.tk> writes:
> Larry Kilgallen wrote:
>> In article <70vZb.116$nd2.3561@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <warren@ve3wwg.tk> writes:
>> 
>>>Larry Kilgallen wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <naNYb.6433$Cd6.542558@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <warren@ve3wwg.tk> writes:
>>>>
>>>>>It would be useful to have such an Open Sourced version of the same
>>>>>(or a flavour of GNAT). It could then be used as a bootstrap
>>>>>compiler for GNAT on new platforms. You would of course have to
>>>>>do a lot of Ada runtime library support at the C level as well,
>>>>>but for a bootstrap compiler, this could be minimized I think.
>>>>
>>>>For bootstrapping purposes, the compiler need not be open source,
>>>>since when you are done none of the original compiler would remain
>>>>and the result of your work could be distributed under whatever
>>>>terms you choose.
>>>
>>>Agreed, but an "Open Sourced" bootstrap compiler would
>>>allow _that_ compiler to be compiled by GCC,
>> 
>> So would _any_ compiler to which someone who cares has source.
>> "Not Open Source" is different from "Nobody Has Source".
> 
> OK, I thought my point was obvious: either it isn't or
> you're just being a troll ;-)
> 
> The point is that opened sourced compilers allow anyone at
> any time to "port" a compiler (for the small cost of
> downloading). A proprietary compiler _usually_ does not
> come without a larger cost,

Personally, I prefer the traditional economic model for software,
and if one has the compiler one can port.  You seem to be making
blanket statements that ascribe benefits to open source that do
not exist (not your latest, but your earlier).

If you don't want to fork over money to the compiler vendor,
pay the person who has the compiler and have the port done
on a work-for-hire basis.

Sometimes I get the feeling this newsgroup is populated exclusively
by home hobbyists...