From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7ee10ec601726fbf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-11 05:55:03 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.cc.ukans.edu!newscon05.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr11.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Pat Rogers" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <3BC30674.BA88AAB6@brighton.ac.uk> <9pvv3t$ves$1@news.huji.ac.il> Subject: why not "standardize" the Booch Components? (was Re: is Ada dying?) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.191.176.121 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr11.news.prodigy.com 1002803361 ST000 208.191.176.121 (Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:29:21 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:29:21 EDT Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com X-UserInfo1: FKPO@MC@@S@USVT^ORHL_IXBUSXHQD\MNPWZKB]MPXHTEPIB_NVUAH_[BL[\IRKIANGGJBFNJF_DOLSCENSY^U@FRFUEXR@KFXYDBPWBCDQJA@X_DCBHXR[C@\EOKCJLED_SZ@RMWYXYWE_P@\\GOIW^@SYFFSWHFIXMADO@^[ADPRPETLBJ]RDGENSKQQZN Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:29:21 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14249 Date: 2001-10-11T12:29:21+00:00 List-Id: "Ehud Lamm" wrote in message news:9pvv3t$ves$1@news.huji.ac.il... > I think that adding Collections to the standard library would be a big help. > I find it sad that when I want to explain what Collections are, I print > stuff from the Java docs ;-( This is an issue that has troubled me for some time. Many of us have developed libraries of reusable components over the years. It is a great way to learn a language. We all have things we like about them. Some are extensive and well done. However, we would all clearly benefit by agreeing to make one of them the de facto standard. (Formal standardization is desirable too, IMHO.) I propose the Booch Components be that standard. If there is a better suite I haven't seen it and I've seen many of them. However, there may very well be a better collection of components. Let's discuss them. Whatever we choose, an incomplete list of steps required include: Start using them instead of our individual in-house favorites. That's the hard part. Have a community-wide decision to adopt them, so that the above can happen. Unless a significant number of people publicly agree to adopt them there will be few individuals willing to make the change. Thoughts? --- Patrick Rogers Consulting and Training in: http://www.classwide.com Real-Time/OO Languages progers@classwide.com Hard Deadline Schedulability Analysis (281)648-3165 Software Fault Tolerance