From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,7684e927a2475d0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wns13feed!worldnet.att.net!attbi_s72.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Jeffrey R. Carter" Organization: jrcarter at acm dot org User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: can one build commercial applications with latest gnat and other licenses related questions... References: <449d2a28$0$11075$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <449d5c03$0$11074$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <6sbqsh6jv7.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.201.97.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mchsi.com X-Trace: attbi_s72 1151438945 12.201.97.176 (Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:09:05 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:09:05 GMT Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:09:05 GMT Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:5118 Date: 2006-06-27T20:09:05+00:00 List-Id: M E Leypold wrote: > > Please follow my other posts :-). Regarding what I'd call "the > environment", like bindings to a portable GUI toolkit or the OS. OK. I have 2 GMGPL versions of GtkAda (2.2.0 and 2.4.0) and a GMGPL version of GNAT (MinGW 3.4.2) on my computer at the moment. (These are not the only compilers or bindings, just the ones that seem relevant to this discussion.) GtkAda is a portable GUI toolkit and GNAT comes with GMGPL bindings to the OS. All were free in terms of money. So I don't see what your complaint is. It's also clear that ACT cannot legally impose the GPL on their compilers the way they have. The DOD contract that resulted in GNAT was to create an Ada-95 compiler that is free (in both senses of the word) and may be used to create un-free programs. (These requirements resulted in the GMGPL.) As there is no Ada-0X standard yet, there can be no Ada-0X compilers yet, and in fact the ACT GPL compilers are Ada-95 compilers that implement some of the features of the Ada-0X draft only as an option. It seems ACT is calling them "200[5|6]" to try to get around the requirements of the contract, but it's clear that these are Ada-95 compilers with some extra features optionally available, and so in violation of the contract. (I wonder who at the DOD one would contact about this, since the AJPO no longer exists.) Of course, IANAL. -- Jeff Carter "Many times we're given rhymes that are quite unsingable." Monty Python and the Holy Grail 57