From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,74d953d10520ed5e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-31 07:25:58 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!newsfeed.telus.net!rip!news.webusenet.com!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!internal-news-hub.cableinet.net!news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Subject: Re: using charles library From: Bill Findlay Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Message-ID: References: <3ED2EB15.7B74D21E@somewhere.nil> <3ED6957F.9405D316@somewhere.nil> <3ED896EC.CF303D93@somewhere.nil> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 15:24:53 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.195.75.181 X-Complaints-To: abuse@blueyonder.co.uk X-Trace: news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk 1054391157 80.195.75.181 (Sat, 31 May 2003 14:25:57 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 14:25:57 GMT Organization: blueyonder (post doesn't reflect views of blueyonder) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:38217 Date: 2003-05-31T15:24:53+01:00 List-Id: On 31/5/03 12:50, in article 3ED896EC.CF303D93@somewhere.nil, "Gautier Write-only" wrote: ... > If a translator from Pascal was expected to only recognize standard > Pascal, it would be completely useless. No chance of going beyond a few > lines of "usual" Pascal. Unfortunately true. >> Of course, a particular compiler might allow it anyway. That's one >> difference between Ada and nearly every other programming language: Ada >> compilers are tested for conformance. ... > > ... and Pascal is a remarkable example (if not the worst) of > fragmentation into incompatible dialects - we can forgive it since > the language was designed for teaching programmation. Well, Pascal was actually one of the first languages to have a vendor-independent standard-conformance validation test-suite and process (implemented by the British Standards Institution, which sponsored the development of the British, later ANSI and ISO, standard). Unfortunately, some vendors (curses be upon them) chose to ignore the established Zurich and (later) institutional standards in favour of customer lock-in through proprietary extensions. The fragmentation had little to do with teaching, and in fact was detrimental to teaching, because it fragmented the text-book market as well. -- Bill-Findlay chez blue-yonder.co.uk ("-" => "")