From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3885b7fd66a1db28 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-22 07:08:20 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!skynet.be!skynet.be!213.51.129.3.MISMATCH!newshub1.home.nl!home.nl!amsnews01.chello.com!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!internal-news-hub.cableinet.net!news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Subject: Re: Why is Ada a good choice for an ambitious beginner to programming From: Bill Findlay Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Message-ID: References: <5ad0dd8a.0212210251.63b87aba@posting.google.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 15:08:08 +0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.195.52.70 X-Complaints-To: abuse@blueyonder.co.uk X-Trace: news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk 1040569699 80.195.52.70 (Sun, 22 Dec 2002 15:08:19 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 15:08:19 GMT Organization: blueyonder (post doesn't reflect views of blueyonder) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32198 Date: 2002-12-22T15:08:08+00:00 List-Id: On 22/12/02 14:40, in article BA2B7F6D.15B9%yaldnifw@blueyonder.co.uk, "Bill Findlay" wrote: > On 21/12/02 10:51, in article > 5ad0dd8a.0212210251.63b87aba@posting.google.com, "Wojtek Narczynski" > wrote: > >> For an ide you can use GRASP or AdaGIDE. Your compiler of choice is >> GNAT, debugger GVD. Alternatively you can grab an excellent (really) >> Integrated DE from Aonix, it has limitations that shouldn't be >> important for learning. > > This assumes submission to the Wintel hegemony. > If you have a decent Mac, MacOS X GNAT runs under Apple's > Project Builder IDE. Actually, if the interest is in learning to program, rather than learning to use a specific toolset, then neither IDEs nor debuggers are necessary, or even particularly useful to a beginner. -- Bill-Findlay chez blue-yonder.co.uk ("-" => "")