From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,42490cad53ee37fa X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!d9c68f36!not-for-mail From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: NOACE- End of the road for Ada? References: <516_d.23836$OU1.7950@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> In-Reply-To: <516_d.23836$OU1.7950@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <9zf_d.5948$qW.2039@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:25:25 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.22.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net 1111065925 209.165.22.201 (Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:25:25 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:25:25 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9541 Date: 2005-03-17T13:25:25+00:00 List-Id: adaworks@sbcglobal.net wrote: > > > It would be really cool to have a standard interface between Ada and > Matlab. > Probably, but it would be even MORE cool if there was an entire Ada equivalent of Matlab, et alia. The whole bundle of stuff produced by The Mathworks is pretty cool for the modeling world, but I think it has problems when people try to bring it into production. It is very tempting to say "Well, now that you've defined the control in the model world and conducted a bunch of tests on it, why don't we just compile it and take that code into the production box..." But the model world likes to play fast and loose with all the things that might cause problems in a production world. (For example, everything tends to be just a "real" number - not much type checking going on. Or not much support for low-level representations of data that might matter when the zeros and ones actually connect to the hardware. Or any number of other complaints.) So people like to just build these models then take the code into production, but might it not be BETTER if the modeling tool had capabilities aimed at the production world? Might it not be BETTER if a modeling tool took into consideration the needs of and proven techniques of embedded software development? So if someone designed such a modeling tool and incorporated Ada-isms into it and had it generating Ada code, and it provided BETTER capabilities to the guy designing models, might that not create an interesting marketplace for Ada? The same kind of thinking could be applied to other problem domains. Its not enough just to have a compiler and a few general tools for development. For the language to thrive in an environment, the tools for that domain must also support the language well. (or perhaps the other way around?) MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m o d c @ a m o g c n i c . r "'Shut up,' he explained." -- Ring Lardner ======================================================================