From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,92c39a3be0a7f17d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-12-18 11:52:25 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Future with Ada Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:41:08 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9vnrj9$8me$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1008693673 8910 136.170.200.133 (18 Dec 2001 16:41:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Dec 2001 16:41:13 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:18065 Date: 2001-12-18T16:41:13+00:00 List-Id: As well you know, Bob, I'm much in favor of the notion of making money from the development of software. I think in particular that I liked the idea you expressed in this and other papers that one of the best ways to promote Ada and encourage its use is to demonstrate how people can make money by developing in Ada. Many companies don't necessarily know about or believe in the benefits of using Ada because they have not witnessed the tangible monetary benefits of doing so. If their competitors were using Ada and developing better software, faster and cheaper, then they'd have to take a look at that. Many individual programmers are reluctant to learn or use Ada because they don't see a job future in it. They see thousands of ads for jobs using other languages and few ads for Ada positions. If they saw more companies using Ada, they might be encouraged to want to earn a living that way. If the ad-hoc developers out there saw a chance to develop something in Ada that might gain them fame and fortune rather than just the undying gratitude of end users and corporations who picked up their work at no cost, there might be more of them flocking to the fold. Perhaps that's where I was headed by suggesting the construction of some commercial product in Ada that would compete against some of the other big time apps out there. If Ada is so great, it ought to be possible to build something that competes effectively with the big guys, produces a better quality end product for the consumer, makes money for those involved and produces more tools/utilities for the Ada community. Seems like everyone could win. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Robert C. Leif, Ph.D." wrote in message news:mailman.1008690662.8682.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org... > From: Bob Leif > To: Ian S. Nelson et al, > As I have already pointed out, the developers of Linux have contributed > mightily to the fortunes of the founders of RedHat and the shareholders of > companies like IBM. I hope that entrance to the software engineering > profession does not require an oath of poverty. > > R. C. Leif, "SIGAda 99, Workshop: How do We Expedite the Commercial Use of > Ada?" Ada Letters XX pp19-26 (2000).