From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,92c39a3be0a7f17d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-12-17 09:57:56 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Future with Ada Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:31:58 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9vl6m1$21r$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <9v57u1$mfb$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9v74ov014bc@drn.newsguy.com> <9vb24v$7fg$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3C1A61A6.22695C98@worldnet.att.net> <3C1AA877.914DB6EF@adaworks.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1008606721 2107 136.170.200.133 (17 Dec 2001 16:32:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Dec 2001 16:32:01 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:18019 Date: 2001-12-17T16:32:01+00:00 List-Id: But Ada is almost 20 years old. Java is how old? And yet Ada is less "mature"? This, IMHO, is a problem. It kind of indicates that people *expect* a language to come with an IDE and a library and if you're there without one you won't get taken seriously. I hope we succeed in fixing that - but how do we get there without Micro$oft or Sun getting behind us? If the DoD was still there with a little vision to say "Ada having an IDE and a GUI and some other library stuff and some tools is good for us because it will create the user base we need..." then we would stand a better chance of getting there. But without a large sponsor it is difficult to achieve this sort of thing. How do we get there in the abscence of such support? MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Richard Riehle" wrote in message news:3C1AA877.914DB6EF@adaworks.com... > > These students understand that the superiority of a programming language > does count for much when the tools for development are still immature. >