From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,TO_NO_BRKTS_FROM_MSSP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-01 06:28:44 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!feed.textport.net!newsranger.com!www.newsranger.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: Ted Dennison References: <3B6555ED.9B0B0420@sneakemail.com> <9k3l9r$10i2$1@pa.aaanet.ru> <3B656345.64AB603A@sneakemail.com> <9k3oa1$2qg8$1@pa.aaanet.ru> <3B657715.7EC592D9@sneakemail.com> <3B6588FC.6D40C443@sneakemail.com> <87snfe9sir.fsf@520075220525-0001.dialin.t-online.de> Subject: Re: How to make Ada a dominant language Message-ID: <9uT97.13763$ar1.43461@www.newsranger.com> X-Abuse-Info: When contacting newsranger.com regarding abuse please X-Abuse-Info: forward the entire news article including headers or X-Abuse-Info: else we will not be able to process your request X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsranger.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 09:28:37 EDT Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:28:38 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10939 Date: 2001-08-01T13:28:38+00:00 List-Id: First off, I'm sorry if I implied that I thought *you* were complaining. It was clear you were just relating how you saw others would feel. In article , Milan Mancel says... >Often it is necessary to quick hack few lines of code, for example few >days ago I needed to fill database with testing data of 50000 random >user profiles (each user has something about 40 attributes), I would >not do it in Java and definitely not in Ada (even if I was not only >Ada newbie). Quick hack in Python did the job. And when I was writing >this script I managed to write few classes that I find so usefull that >I will rewrite them in Java and use in final application, so I think >that evolutionary principle is not that bad :) > >I think that Ada is not good for this kind of disposable code or >scripts, and I am afraid that many newbie programmers with only "one Of course it would be silly to deny that there are some times Ada is *not* the right tool. However, I think the example you quote is one that for me would not be a good example. I would have no problem using Ada for something like that (particularly if I already had the user profile data structure hanging around, which would seem likely). I generally only use simpler tools for much simpler tasks. For instance, it would be silly to write myself a specific file string searching program when "grep", "find", and "xargs" are available to be used together for that purpose. However, when I needed to write my own version of "cp -r" due to file system problems I had to work around, Ada was where I went. When you are comfortable enough with Ada, you will probably find yourself using it for such tasks too. I think its really a matter of familiarity more than anything else. --- T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com