From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,8fbb80525a3ce8ee X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-21 07:21:52 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: UML & Ada Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:47:46 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9tgeqm$n1m$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <9tc0qk$cee$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9tem90$n3k$1@nh.pace.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1006354070 23606 136.170.200.133 (21 Nov 2001 14:47:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Nov 2001 14:47:50 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:16792 Date: 2001-11-21T14:47:50+00:00 List-Id: Thanks for the links. I agree that there is food value in being able to describe an overall design in a language independent way, but I think I want something at more levels than that. I want a tool that lets me describe what a system has to be able to do - that might be something UML might support in some manner (but my impression is that it still sticks you pretty much with OOD - which rules out a lot of other possible designs - especially ones that might already exist.) I want a tool that describes the overall structure of the software I've built or intend to build - a sort of overview of how the various Ada pieces hang together. Then I might want something that allows me to describe lower-level algorithms within subprograms/tasks. UML's interaction diagrams - and possibly Use Cases - I find can be helpful, but I don't see it supporting all the things I want in a design tool. Perhaps I need to get a more thorough understanding of it to see if maybe I can shoehorn the things I want to do into the modeling language. But it would *still* be nice to have something that diagramatically represented all possible Ada programs - and UML can't be made to do this any way I know of. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Simon Wright" wrote in message news:x7v1yisk4d1.fsf@smaug.pushface.org... > > If you are modelling a problem domain, you likely don't want to be > thinking about tasks. Indeed, the ideal is that your model should be > true (useful) in a number of implementations. Analyse Navigation, say, > and reuse in a cruise missile and a torpedo (I don't think that's > _very_ likely ..). Change your implementation language from C++ to Ada > but retain your model. >