From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,beb0b7471c6440e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-20 08:41:09 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: 'Cyclone', a safer C--reinventing the wheel Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:22:34 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9te00b$dms$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <3BFA4095.8325D016@earthlink.net> <9tdq9i$bc2$1@nh.pace.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1006273355 14044 136.170.200.133 (20 Nov 2001 16:22:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Nov 2001 16:22:35 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:16729 Date: 2001-11-20T16:22:35+00:00 List-Id: There are occasionally true innovations. The GUI interface was once an innovation over the Glass Teletype and its descendents (and certainly there is debate over who was first to have one) but was the Windows GUI or the Mac GUI somehow something fundamentally new and innovative once PARC had started it off? If you listen to the marketing weenies, you'd believe that Windows was something never before seen on this planet. You'd also believe that Bill Gates invented the Operating System, Dr. Evil invented the "Death Star" and Al Gore invented the Internet. I think Computer Science would be better off without the hype. Let's be honest and say "I started with concept X and evolved it to include these new and interesting capabilities" rather than "I invented Concept X in a blinding fit of brilliance and the world will never be the same!" MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Florian Weimer" wrote in message news:tgr8qtpig0.fsf@mercury.rus.uni-stuttgart.de... > > Gosling himself probably used p-code in Gosling Emacs ...