From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,2def9aa85afa5d22 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-01 07:42:03 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Joint Strike Fighter Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:41:56 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9rrmvl$98d$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <3BDCE159.39F6D422@adaworks.com> <11bf7180.0110290311.4d8d6f04@posting.google.com> <3BDF9C6A.C25520C5@adaworks.com> <3BE023AB.8F235EF5@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <9rp8mo$6d8$1@nh.pace.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1004625717 9485 136.170.200.133 (1 Nov 2001 14:41:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Nov 2001 14:41:57 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:15541 Date: 2001-11-01T14:41:57+00:00 List-Id: A lot of things go into the decision to move to C++. The techies may want it because it is what they know or what they want to know for career enhancement. Management may favor it because they figure its easier to hire people who know C++, it has the appearance of where the computer industry is going and "Nobody ever got fired for buying C++..." lemming mentality. The point being that there may be emotional, human, self-interest and business reasons that some companies/projects abandon Ada in favor of C++, but there are seldom any strong technical reasons for doing so. Hence, preserving and promoting Ada in more areas is going to have to address the same things. We've probably won the technical argument by now, but we have to also win the business and human-factors arguments as well. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "JF Harrison" wrote in message news:mailman.1004589967.2606.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org... > I am a software engineer at LMCO and have no interest in C++. I > specifically applied for a job using Ada 95, coming out of the dot bomb > arena. I think you are focusing on the wrong people in wondering why it has > gone C++. Functional managers want things done a certain way, and they > decide. If programmers newly hired dont even know what Ada is (I've met > some like that), they aren't going to even have an opinion on the matter, > much less feedback if asked. ( "Would you like a job programming in Ada?" - > "Um, what's that?") And of course many younger employees want C++ because > that is what they learned in school (in many cases) so that's their skill > set, or, yes, they want to get paid to learn it in the first place, for job > security and mobility. >