From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7ee10ec601726fbf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-30 14:44:32 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!psiuk-p2!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: why not Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:55:50 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9rmii8$oh2$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <3BC30674.BA88AAB6@brighton.ac.uk> <9pvv3t$ves$1@news.huji.ac.il> <3BC5D730.DA950CC7@boeing.com> <9q4pa7$1ad$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3BC6ACC8.23EF21BC@free.fr> <3BC71F54.1FFE78FA@boeing.com> <1KGx7.26476$ev2.35117@www.newsranger.com> <3BC7AD82.2A0CCCD4@acm.org> <9qhiqr$af0$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <1nDC7.180$6S7.92255364@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com> <9rjsak$bp3$1@nh.pace.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1004457352 25122 136.170.200.133 (30 Oct 2001 15:55:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Oct 2001 15:55:52 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:15440 Date: 2001-10-30T15:55:52+00:00 List-Id: I would agree that what you describe are "sufficient" events, but not "necessary" events. I'd go for that approach if some consensus starts to form. Its just that you still have the problem of getting some kind of agreement by a sufficiently large body of users that "Library X" is the way to go. That's hard to do. I'm of the opinion that if something just simply came with the compiler you use, there'd be pressure to settle on that library rather than adopt one of N possible other libraries. (Do C users go find other variations of "strcmp", etc? Do Ada users go download alternatives to Ada.Strings..., etc? There may be better libraries out there, but the pressure to go with what comes with your compiler is pretty strong.) It also gives Ada something immediately useful to your average student or hacker that they might not get elsewhere. A nice collection of data structures & other stuff is similar to having a built-in GUI interface - extra leverage that gets you out the door quicker. Maybe I'm just overly skeptical that folks will agree on one of the existing libraries. Possibly there are enough users who would accept one of them even if it isn't one of their first choices. A suggestion that might work is to identify a list of possible candidates and take a straw poll just to see if there is a favorite out there? MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Pat Rogers" wrote in message news:LmzD7.3234$QX4.633344102@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > > I see the sequence of necessary events in the opposite order as do you: if > we want a common components library, and settled on one, and then started > asking for vendor "support", they would provide it. >