From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7ee10ec601726fbf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-29 10:42:59 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!skynet.be!skynet.be!newspush.london1.eu.level3.net!level3eu!psiuk-p2!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: why not Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:24:01 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9rjsak$bp3$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <3BC30674.BA88AAB6@brighton.ac.uk> <9pvv3t$ves$1@news.huji.ac.il> <3BC5D730.DA950CC7@boeing.com> <9q4pa7$1ad$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3BC6ACC8.23EF21BC@free.fr> <3BC71F54.1FFE78FA@boeing.com> <1KGx7.26476$ev2.35117@www.newsranger.com> <3BC7AD82.2A0CCCD4@acm.org> <9qhiqr$af0$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <1nDC7.180$6S7.92255364@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1004369044 12067 136.170.200.133 (29 Oct 2001 15:24:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Oct 2001 15:24:04 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:15368 Date: 2001-10-29T15:24:04+00:00 List-Id: Well, that's a bit of a disappointment. While I understand a reluctance to distribute someone else's software - especially if it is unsupported - you have to wonder how any sort of standard utilities are supposed to make it into the language with that sort of policy. Its too hard - and probably undesirable - to try to get some specifications into the ARM. The vendors may all have their own utilities they are trying to hawk, but that leaves the end user adopting something that ties them to a vendor. Is there no possible mechanism by which one or more vendors could agree to include some component library? (A rising tide lifts all boats would be my argument to favor that. Making Ada more useful would help increase the size of the pie to compete over.) How exactly did STL get into C++? How exactly did ASIS gain any acceptance and is this a model by which a component library could get into the picture? Is this a case of Ada once again getting too stodgy, too demanding, too rigid, too formal, too theoretical and once again conceding ground to other languages that seem to be more able to adapt to user's needs? MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Pat Rogers" wrote in message news:1nDC7.180$6S7.92255364@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com... > > I've received no answers to a post to Team Ada, so I conclude that either 1) > the vendors do not have much interest, or 2) they don't follow team Ada. > > I do know that there is an justifiable unwillingness by at least one vendor > to distribute unsupported software of any kind or origin. >