From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10a146,5dbc5c834131d614 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,fe82bd3a72926e1a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,374e3d493349dc8f X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-15 14:20:34 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!193.190.198.17!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Language design by by committee ( was Re: Try J# ( was Re: J# is there )) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:01:06 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9qfiqk$7sg$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <9q223u$lap2j$1@ID-77397.news.dfncis.de> <46vast4p1qnb0e8bt59v4e8616hacvcgtd@4ax.com> <3BC5C49F.B1386292@ao_spam_nix.de> <3BCB3F96.20817310@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1003179668 8080 136.170.200.133 (15 Oct 2001 21:01:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Oct 2001 21:01:08 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.programmer:101957 comp.lang.java.advocacy:30860 comp.lang.ada:14599 Date: 2001-10-15T21:01:08+00:00 List-Id: Well, here is a sad thing about the human condition. We'd all like to think that we base our decisions about what we prefer on logic and rationality, yet all too often, its the reverse. We decide what we like, then we go about looking for reasons and logic to support our prejudices. Too many people have based their decisions about Ada on hearsay, misinformation, cursory glances and preconceived notions. Its too bad because they end up missing out on what they could learn from the language - even if they were using something else more regularly. Most of the Ada crowd has some reasonable level of experience with things like C++ and Java and, sometimes we irrationally beat up on them because they aren't what we are used to or prefer. We can be guilty of the same prejudices. I think many times the criticisms are fair and balanced since most of us Ada guys know there are applications where we are better off using C++ or Java. If we know C++ and Java with some level of intimacy and still prefer Ada, then perhaps that gives us some credibility that the other side may not have. I've constructed and worked on major systems built in C & C++. Can your garden variety Ada critic say the same? I'm sure others from C.L.A could tell similar stories. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Wes Groleau" wrote in message news:3BCB3F96.20817310@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com... > > It's a defense mechanism. If something is > reasonable and logical, the only way to fight > it is hype and emotion. > > Like I was recently informed elsewhere, > "that article was on an anarchist web-site, > therefore its medical journal citations are > meaningless." >