From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7ee10ec601726fbf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-15 03:50:41 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!drn From: Robert*@ Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: is Ada dying? Date: 15 Oct 2001 03:24:09 -0700 Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://newsguy.com] Message-ID: <9qedg903km@drn.newsguy.com> References: <3BC30674.BA88AAB6@brighton.ac.uk> <9pvv3t$ves$1@news.huji.ac.il> <9q42jo$lu8$1@news1.sunrise.ch> <9q95lm$b4l$1@news.huji.ac.il> <3bca9c74.1660187@news.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-879.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Direct Read News 2.90 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14512 Date: 2001-10-15T03:24:09-07:00 List-Id: In article <3bca9c74.1660187@news.demon.co.uk>, john.mccabe@emrad.com.nospam says... > > >Of course it is - Pascal was designed as a teaching language, Java >wasn't designed. hi John, did you mean to cut off the sentense above as is, i.e. did you mean to say that java was not designed, period, or that it was not designed to be a teaching language? I think that software is becomming a more component based, where most programmers know how to use those pieces of software as a black box, and so many do not learn the more basic things in programming, like data structures and records (in Java, programmers do not even know what a record is :). These things are not learned well. Java programmers do not even know too well about enumeration and parameters passing mehanism, but know how to create an object or extend one and use an interface. speaking of records. in true OO, the concept of a record does not exist really. All what you have is an object, which contains attributes (state information). So, I can sort of understand when a java programmer ask me what is a record?