From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7ee10ec601726fbf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-12 06:56:48 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: why not "standardize" the Booch Components? (was Re: is Ada dying?) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:47:46 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9q6sa5$41u$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <3BC30674.BA88AAB6@brighton.ac.uk> <9pvv3t$ves$1@news.huji.ac.il> <3BC5D730.DA950CC7@boeing.com> <9q4pa7$1ad$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3BC6ACC8.23EF21BC@free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1002894469 4158 136.170.200.133 (12 Oct 2001 13:47:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Oct 2001 13:47:49 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14399 Date: 2001-10-12T13:47:49+00:00 List-Id: People regularly use the standard function libraries supplied with C. They also regularly use the standard libraries provided by Ada. I think there might be a different perception of a library that comes along with most/all compilers versus one that is downloaded off the net. People might presume that something that comes with the compiler is of better quality and more likely to be portable. You get some library off the net and you don't know if it will work with all compilers in all environments and you might wonder about its reliability and quality. One might also start presuming that a library distributed with a compiler is something they can call their vendor and complain about and get something done to fix it. Downloading it from some website free of charge might lead people to assume they are on their own and no bug fixes will ever come unless they do it themselves. (Side bar: How many times have we seen posts from Ada newbies talking about C/C++ ways of doing things and ultimately they are presuming that some function they are used to using is part of the language? It may only be a function that came with one specific compiler or maybe an OS call, but they *think* it is a standard C/C++ feature. Our arguing against that ignorance may be noble, but it might be better to simply work with it. If a number of vendors provided some common component library with their distributions, you'd have folks going "No. Look. In Ada I can do XYZ and in your language you can't!!!") It isn't right or fair - its just the way things are. Compilers may come with crappy libraries and Netware might be rock-solid, but it is a matter of perception. And as an old friend of mine was fond of saying "Perception *is* Reality!" MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Lutz Donnerhacke" wrote in message news:slrn9sdbi9.k4.lutz@taranis.iks-jena.de... > > This is correct only if your apply a pure rational view. Unfortunly serveral > programmers can't sleep when using a forein - not standard - library. > Including myself.