From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7ee10ec601726fbf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-11 05:28:45 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news1.ebone.net!news.ebone.net!news1.fra.nextra.com!nextra.com!nextra.ch.MISMATCH!newsfeed.nextra.ch!news.nextra.ch!news1.sunrise.ch!not-for-mail From: webwarrior@webwarrior.ch Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: is Ada dying? Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:11:03 +0200 Organization: Usenet provided by sunrise communications ag Message-ID: <9q42jo$lu8$1@news1.sunrise.ch> References: <3BC30674.BA88AAB6@brighton.ac.uk> <9pvv3t$ves$1@news.huji.ac.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: pop-be-6-1-dialup-20.freesurf.ch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: news1.sunrise.ch 1002802616 22472 194.230.176.20 (11 Oct 2001 12:16:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sunrise.ch NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Oct 2001 12:16:56 GMT User-Agent: KNode/0.4 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14245 Date: 2001-10-11T12:16:56+00:00 List-Id: Ehud Lamm wrote: > > John English wrote in message > news:3BC30674.BA88AAB6@brighton.ac.uk... >> Several have switched to Java. Reasons include lack of beginner's texts >> (which are all out of print because the market is too small because >> no-one teaches it anymore...) and, more importantly, lack of standard >> libraries for GUI development, networking, and data collections. Although >> there are plenty around, none of them are *standard*, so the perception >> is that Ada can't do these things. > > Not to mention that students want to learn Java, and are quite upset when > made to learn Ada ("Why should we learn Ada, nobody is using it?!!") > > I think that adding Collections to the standard library would be a big > help. I find it sad that when I want to explain what Collections are, I > print stuff from the Java docs ;-( > > Ehud Lamm > > > > computer science students still have to learn ada in their first year programming course at the swiss federal institute of technology. so ada doesn't seem to die too quickly ;-) and they really gave us looots of reasons why to learn ada and not java first -- http://www.webwarrior.ch