From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7ee10ec601726fbf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-09 08:55:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: is Ada dying? Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:49:31 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9pv6ad$5ah$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <3BC264B4.EBB8238@worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1002642573 5457 136.170.200.133 (9 Oct 2001 15:49:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Oct 2001 15:49:33 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14042 Date: 2001-10-09T15:49:33+00:00 List-Id: If C++ is a language that would be held up by these hackers as "superior" to the Ada they define, I'd find that to be a *real* laugh! "Elephantine"? "Crokish"? "Difficult to use"? (Thy name is C++! :-) Ada may be a large language in comparison to some, but it is certainly syntactically smaller than C++. And it at least has the advantage of consistency and simplicity in its semantics. Try understanding all of the "I before E except after C unless its an alternate Tuesday or Thrusday with a full moon or a month with an R in it...." sort of peculiar rules that show up in the semantics of C++. It is both "Elephantine" and "Organically Grown" (probably in a petri dish starting with some malevolent spore or demon-spawn! :-) If this is an example of what "hackers" like instead of Ada, then please never call me a "hacker". Quite frankly, many of the same criticisms apply to C - except for the "Elephantine" part. I'll concede that C is small in comparison to Ada, but otherwise it suffers from all the same criticisms one can level at C++. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "James Rogers" wrote in message news:3BC264B4.EBB8238@worldnet.att.net... > > Yes. Let's all use a language with common constructs like the > following: > > float (*(*f)())(); > > This is "simple" C syntax for a pointer to a function returning a > pointer to a function returning a float. > > The above example is obviously much more desireable than making > a program readable. :-) > > The hackers mentioned above are nearly unanimous in seeing nothing > wrong with the above example. Note that C expressions are most > commonly parsed from the middle out, not left to right or right to > left. > > This wonderful syntax is also valid in C++.