From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1cf653444208df72 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-09 07:05:22 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ada vs. cpp Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:51:37 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9puvdc$225$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <9pgr68$7pu1@news.cis.okstate.edu> <9phnic$9g5$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <5fkv7.134136$w7.19988807@news02.optonline.net> <9pmpk00a53@drn.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1002635500 2117 136.170.200.133 (9 Oct 2001 13:51:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Oct 2001 13:51:40 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14013 Date: 2001-10-09T13:51:40+00:00 List-Id: I don't think this would help. Most of the C++/Java guys don't specifically hate Ada syntax nearly as much as they hate the strong typing and error checking and other semantic features of Ada. They *want* a language that is loose. I suppose you could give them a language that is "loose" using Ada syntax, but then why bother? It wouldn't be Ada anymore. (They'd still object to its wordiness - you'd be better off developing a language where every non-alpha character represented some operation or language feature. :-) As for GC - I'd rather leave that implementation defined. Ada would lose a lot of usefulness in embedded/realtime work if it was mandatory that GC be in it. As it stands, an implementation *could* provide GC if there was a demand for it. So far, most users aren't screaming for it. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "MM@MM" wrote in message news:9pmpk00a53@drn.newsguy.com... > > May be what we need is a new language, which has the good stuff > of Ada (strong typing, ranges, attributes, separation of interface and > implementation, generics, tasks, etc...), but with a more modern OO > look and feel (as in Java), maybe even garbage collection thrown in > (although I have mixed feeling on GC). Delphi now comes the > closest thing to this (it is sort of Ada like, but also has Java like > classes in terms of syntax and feel to it). >