From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,c62a5e526aafd9d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-09-28 04:05:05 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: The Hobby Lobby was Windows CE? Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:37:36 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9ovh43$erd$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <9onhgu$9h9$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3BAF77E6.9BDE9102@adaworks.com> <9onvig$f6n$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3bb05ee7.10496763@news.demon.co.uk> <3BB0B3C4.432E2B4B@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <3bb1d07f.18201562@news.demon.co.uk> <3BB2075A.57C22F55@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <3BB22F0E.718B1244@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <9otbs2$juj$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9ovaf2$c18$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3BB340C6.DC51CB98@lmtas.lmco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1001605059 15213 136.170.200.133 (27 Sep 2001 15:37:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Sep 2001 15:37:39 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:13461 Date: 2001-09-27T15:37:39+00:00 List-Id: No, it isn't strictly necessary to get it into store shelves, but it sure helps a lot if you want to sell lots of copies. :-) The case you cite is a bit different. Fortran, as a language, has an extremely large number of users in a wide variety of application areas. These users already know the language and use the language, so you don't need to sell them on the language itself. Ada - while it has a dedicated and non-trivial following - does not have such a large base of existing users. So you first have to sell "The Masses" on the notion of using the language, then you can sell them on the particular implementation. I'm sure among the dedicated Ada users already in existence, that most of them have no real need to go to a store to buy it. They either get it downloaded from one or more sources off of the net or already have relationships with vendors or at minimum know who to go to in order to get something they already wanted. This is analogous to the Visual Fortran 95 users you cite - just not as large a number. But how many sales are there to people who have no current use of Fortran or no special knowledge of Fortran or who may not even know what Fortran is? That particular group of potential customers is what Ada has to reach out and get to. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Gary Scott" wrote in message news:3BB340C6.DC51CB98@lmtas.lmco.com... > Hi, > > But is it even necessary to get it onto store shelves. Visual Fortran > 95 from Compaq/Intel isn't in any stores that I'm aware of and it's > selling like hot cakes (estimate about 100 copies at my site alone). >