From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00, LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-22 14:17:13 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:09:46 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9m172r$epr$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <4a885870.0108112341.7ce02ac0@posting.google.com> <9l6pdo$rlo$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk> <9IFe7.12813$6R6.1221214@news1.cableinet.net> <9lghqu$ac6$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B7C3293.76F49097@home.com> <9lhefg$lgd$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B7D47F1.25D6FC78@boeing.com> <5ee5b646.0108171856.18631c4c@posting.google.com> <3B7F624B.7294D24F@acm.org> <9lr6je$5hj$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9ltoi7$4is$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B82789B.8D195045@home.com> <9ltuo8$70n$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9lujcr$aai2@news.cis.okstate.edu> <9m0e48$5he$1@nh.pace.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 998514587 15163 136.170.200.133 (22 Aug 2001 21:09:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Aug 2001 21:09:47 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:12292 Date: 2001-08-22T21:09:47+00:00 List-Id: O.K. I don't recall saying that it was doomed because it was Open Source. I think I may have said elsewhere that I could envision a scheme whereby an OS might still make lots of money for the developers even if it *were* open source. I think I can see a number of applications where the open source type of GPL deal might work very well to the advantage of the authors of the product. In other cases, I would think that the Open Source/GPL type of thing would hurt the authors of the work. What the *authors* decide to do about that is ultimately their own business. I'm merely suggesting that if the project is not organized in some manner to provide an incentive bigger than a warm-fuzzy feeling, it isn't as likely to achieve its stated goals. If that means that Open Source is the enemy, then there you have it. I don't think this is the case for an OS - but it might be for other kinds of products. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Ted Dennison" wrote in message news:yhRg7.10738$2u.76684@www.newsranger.com... > > That is indeed one reason. However, you can't make the argument that its failing > because of its status as an OpenSource project, because: > > a) There are plenty of other succesful counter-examples. > b) It has never been organized the way any of those other succesful > counter-examples were organized. > > OpenSource projects, if performed properly, *do* have their own system of > rewards for the participants. If you have some spare time, I'd suggest you read > over ESR's essay "Homesteading the Noosphere". It goes into this in great > detail. As it was written by a raving libertarinan, it couched entirely in > market and reward/punishment terms. I suspect you would be more receptive to > that than the FSF's ideology. :-) > > My stupid net-nanny won't let me see it anymore, but I believe its up at > http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/ somewhere. > > --- > T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html > home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com