From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-17 10:27:09 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack.) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:19:55 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9ljjnt$h0t$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <4a885870.0108112341.7ce02ac0@posting.google.com> <9l6pdo$rlo$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk> <9IFe7.12813$6R6.1221214@news1.cableinet.net> <9lghqu$ac6$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B7C3293.76F49097@home.com> <9lhefg$lgd$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B7D47F1.25D6FC78@boeing.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 998068797 17437 136.170.200.133 (17 Aug 2001 17:19:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Aug 2001 17:19:57 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:12061 Date: 2001-08-17T17:19:57+00:00 List-Id: Well, I can see where GNU fell on its face with respect to their original goal & maybe this is a big risk for AdaOS. Putting my Project Manager hat on for a moment... Presuming that the insistence on building their own compiler is not negotiable, I'd offer this advice: Put a small handful of guys to work on getting a small subset of Ada implemented - just enough to be useful for writing some bootstrap and kernel code. Then get everyone else working on the bootstrap & kernel code using whatever subset was targeted and use whatever compilers are available. IOW, get the OS part of AdaOS off of bottom-dead-center and get some kind of usable, working product out there. No reason the compiler has to be there first - or with all of Ada fully supported. Get *SOMETHING* out there that makes it look like a real project and maybe this will start the snowball building. Otherwise, people will lose interest in the project and the general public will latch onto other things that are real and technology will march onward possibly making the very concept of AdaOS a historic oddity as it becomes OBE. Get something out there or the project is going to die. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Jeffrey Carter" wrote in message news:3B7D47F1.25D6FC78@boeing.com... > The AdaOS people have decided they need to write a compiler before they > can write an OS. Without discussing whether they are correct, I see a > parallel with the GNU project. GNU (GNU's Not Unix) was a project to > write an OS. They decided they needed to write a compiler first. While > the result was a very useful free compiler, it is instructive to note > that GNU never created an OS. >