From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,be23df8e7e275d73 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-07 16:19:45 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Proving Correctness (was Java Portability) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:54:53 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9kprk1$pof$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <9jrt62$38t$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B619A6D.5DD6E782@home.com> <3B6636BA.96FD8348@home.com> <9kb3ub$hdo$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> <9kchn1$lng$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> <9kea9a$lsc$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9keduf$qvc$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> <9kelv1$riq$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> <9klokd0nif@drn.newsguy.com> <3B706ADC.B4847AC3@home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 997224897 26383 136.170.200.133 (7 Aug 2001 22:54:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Aug 2001 22:54:57 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11549 Date: 2001-08-07T22:54:57+00:00 List-Id: "Larry Elmore" wrote in message news:3B706ADC.B4847AC3@home.com... > nicolas wrote: > > > You don't pay to build the factory, the company invest a lot, and can count > > on an income only if the result is good. > > You _don't_??!! _WHO DOES_, then, if not the customer? > Eventually, the customer pays. But that's a lot different than asking the customer to fund the development cost up-front. That's what the venture capitalist or entrepeneur is supposed to do. I think you are misinterpreting the intention here. I believe the point was about asking the customer to just simply pay some cost-plus development money in order to get a library. That is definitely not the same sort of thing as eventually paying off a business's asset acquisition by repeated sales of a product. IOW: You go build it - if I like it and find it worth the price you charge, I buy it. It isn't usually done in the other order - unless you're the government! :-) > > I'd really like to see you in a TV store :-) > > "Stephen, give me money now, I'm going to develop a great TV set, build a > > factory, and I promise you will have a great TV set within a few years ..." > > Duh... What do you think investors do every day? How in the world do you > think the vast majority of companies got started in the first place? > Government mandate, or magic? > A bit unfair. An investor is not the same thing as a customer. -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/