From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-07 07:05:26 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.functional Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:51:28 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9korp1$d72$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <9ka1jc$mgd@augusta.math.psu.edu> <3b690498.1111845720@news.worldonline.nl> <9kbu15$9bj@augusta.math.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 997192289 13538 136.170.200.133 (7 Aug 2001 13:51:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Aug 2001 13:51:29 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11496 comp.lang.c:72681 comp.lang.c++:80632 comp.lang.functional:7380 Date: 2001-08-07T13:51:29+00:00 List-Id: Without wanting to start another flame war.... Could you elaborate on where you think that Ada doesn't cut it? I ask out of curiosity - not as a challenge. I'll contend that Ada doesn't quite fit very small machines - at least if someone wants to debat that, I'd ask to see some implementations targeted to very small SBCs. All the ones I've seen typically at least have a C compiler available and Ada developers have pretty much ignored that niche. (Maybe you *can* fit it to small computers, but people don't seem to be doing that in droves...) Also "rapid prototyping" and one-shot programs of the sort that typically get written in scripting languages is not Ada's strong suit - but that's not saying a lot because C and C++ aren't as well suited to that as other scripting languages. (And I know I've done some quick & dirty hacks in Ada when I've had libraries of domain specific code lying around & got the job done quicker than I would with anything else - but that's more a case of the libraries I had available rather than the language itself.) Otherwise, Ada is a general purpose language like C or C++ & I'm not sure I'd agree that there is some problem space addressed by C or C++ that isn't fit for Ada as well. That's why I'm curious about where you think it doesn't fit well. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ wrote in message news:v6pmk9.313.ln@10.0.0.2... > Safety measures are one part of the equation. It's obviously always > a trade-off between safety and speed (among other things). Balancing the > discussion to only one side of the medal (the side that shines > for Ada) is unfair. We could just as easily turn the tables and > discuss some things where Ada just doesn't cut it.