From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-02 08:23:00 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.functional Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:08:56 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9kbqea$obt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <5ee5b646.0108010949.5abab7fe@posting.google.com> <%CX97.14134$ar1.47393@www.newsranger.com> <9k9if8$rn3$1@elf.eng.bsdi.com> <9k9nci$1cq$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <$Id63yuv4BjB@eisner.encompasserve.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 996764938 24957 136.170.200.133 (2 Aug 2001 15:08:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 2001 15:08:58 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11088 comp.lang.c:71652 comp.lang.c++:79340 comp.lang.functional:7187 Date: 2001-08-02T15:08:58+00:00 List-Id: The "Any *competent* programmer..." argument never holds up when the number of programmers needed to do the job gets much beyond "1" - and probably not even then. Here's a simple fact of life: People are stupid from time to time. Some more than others. Some more frequently than others. Some in a continuous state of stupidity. When you have to hire 1000 programmers for some job at hand, you can bet your life that the staff is not going to be 100% "A-Team" players. If you are counting on everyone being 100% at all times in order to not produce stupid errors, then you're living in a fool's paradise. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Larry Kilgallen" wrote in message news:$Id63yuv4BjB@eisner.encompasserve.org... > At a 50,000 foot level, it is better to equip the troops with tools that > have safety guards on them. They may remove the guards from time to time, > but that is better than for a giant corporation to pretend it is capable > of only hiring people who are so skilled that they would never need a > safety guard.