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From: israel r t <israelrt@optushome.com.au>
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Subject: True faiths ( was Re: The true faith )
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 10:46:36 +1100
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:50:40 -0800, gat@jpl.nasa.gov (Erann Gat)
wrote:

Kent:
>> that the substance will end up mattering in the long run.
>
>The community seems to share a disdain for more than just advocacy.  Our
>disdain extends to just about everything that isn't Lisp.  This disdain is
>evident in statements like "substance will end up mattering in the long
>run", which implicit ly rejects the possibility that substance *has*
>mattered, and that the world has rejected Lisp for substantial reasons and
>not just superficial ones.

This seems to be typical of most marginal communities.
I have seen variants of the  argument  "substance will eventually win
" in the smalltalk, ada, eiffel, os2 and sgi communities. 
It seems improbable that every marginalised language is going to win.

Lisp, Ada , Eiffel and Smalltalk are all excellent languages, far
superior to the Gang of Three ( Java, C++ , C ).

Yet, if Kent is right, they may have all been " rejected ...  for
substantial reasons and not just superficial ones."

Will we all end up like the Moonies , convinced that our faith is the
One True Faith while the rest of the world moves on ?