From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,971aa11c293c3db1 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-20 11:13:19 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!193.251.151.101!opentransit.net!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: "Bertrand Augereau" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada The Best Language? Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 20:18:32 +0200 Organization: Wanadoo, l'internet avec France Telecom Message-ID: <9j9sbu$9ak$1@wanadoo.fr> References: <3B59CD72@MailAndNews.com> <3B5573DA.5ABA8EA7@earthlink.net> <9j94gj$1uk6$1@norfair.nerim.net> <3B581E6B.6FB1DAEF@earthlink.net> <9j9cip$238u$1@norfair.nerim.net> <3B585BBA.7C4BBA3D@earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: afontenayssb-103-1-3-242.abo.wanadoo.fr X-Trace: wanadoo.fr 995652798 9556 217.128.201.242 (20 Jul 2001 18:13:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Jul 2001 18:13:18 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10366 Date: 2001-07-20T18:13:18+00:00 List-Id: > > That's right it's not as much automated as in Ada (anyway there's no value > > range in C++), it is merely a "technique", but you can do really nice stuff > > with this. > > Well sure! But when comparing programming language capabilities you > don't normally compare a language's intrinsic features with something > the developer would have to write themself. Yes but available idioms are dependant of the features of the language and they are just as important, I feel. > > > If you only use some subset of C++ features, everybody support these. Maybe > > that's why your "C++ experts" buddies don't use that, or because it wasn't > > popular (it's still not in fact) at this time. > > You needn't enclose "C++ experts" in quotes. These individuals created > some of the most sophisticated (in the good sense), powerful, and > elegant software I have seen in _any_ programming language. They knew > C++ through and through. Sorry, it was not what the quotes intended. > "Traits" is just not a well-known technique for C++, while attributes > are widely used in Ada code. Agreed. That's because most C++ people don't bother using any feature if they don't badly need it.