From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,971aa11c293c3db1 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-20 05:39:28 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!skynet.be!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!nerim.net!norfair.nerim.net!not-for-mail From: "Bertrand Augereau" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada The Best Language? Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:43:53 +0200 Organization: Nerim -- xDSL Internet Provider Message-ID: <9j98pv$20vi$1@norfair.nerim.net> References: <5be89e2f.0107170838.c71ad61@posting.google.com> <5be89e2f.0107180235.726d46a8@posting.google.com> <3B55B01A.DAC06D79@icn.siemens.de> <5be89e2f.0107181248.73298c57@posting.google.com> <9j949b$1ujp$1@norfair.nerim.net> <9cV57.54954$WS4.8386096@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: aboukir-101-2-1-inutero.adsl.nerim.net X-Trace: norfair.nerim.net 995632767 66546 62.4.19.69 (20 Jul 2001 12:39:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@nerim.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:39:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10325 Date: 2001-07-20T14:43:53+02:00 List-Id: > > Leaving concurrency issues, why so? You can encapsulate system-dependant > > stuff as much in C++. > > True. But some stuff is more compiler dependant, than Ada is (although there > can be differences between Ada compilers, however it is my understanding that > those are clearly documented). That's unfortunately (for us C++ programmers!) true (especially for primitive types size), but nowadays, for instance, you can trust some quite large fundations on any platform : C runtime and STL. I think if I had to choose a language for this cross-platform consideration, I would take Java because you get much more things in the API. Basically for me, considering APIs, Java (+Network) > Ada(+Concurrency) > C++ So it's just a question of where to draw a line, isn't it? By the way I do embedded programming (gaming console), and C and C++ are the only choices, so decision is easy to take! Moreover, C++ is quite classical so you find developers easily (most of them just code in C with the keyword "class" thinking that they know C++ btw). I think if Ada software is better/cheaper to maintain, it is because more qualified people produce it and that's it. Those people could make good C++ software too.