From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,971aa11c293c3db1 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-19 15:31:16 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.tele.dk!195.54.122.107!newsfeed1.bredband.com!bredband!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!algonet!news.man.lodz.pl!news.nask.pl!news.tpi.pl!not-for-mail From: taw@pb220.legnica.sdi.tpnet.pl (Tomasz Wegrzanowski) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada The Best Language? Date: 19 Jul 2001 22:31:15 GMT Organization: tp.internet - http://www.tpi.pl Message-ID: <9j7n3j$e8t$1@news.tpi.pl> References: <3B59EE1C@MailAndNews.com> <9j74bj$lmp$8@news.tpi.pl> <9j796h$b2t$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9j7h4l$lpr$1@news.tpi.pl> <9j7iug$eb2$1@nh.pace.co.uk> Reply-To: taw@users.sourceforge.net NNTP-Posting-Host: pb220.legnica.sdi.tpnet.pl X-Trace: news.tpi.pl 995581875 14621 213.25.230.220 (19 Jul 2001 22:31:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@tpi.pl NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Jul 2001 22:31:15 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.1 (Linux) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10290 Date: 2001-07-19T22:31:15+00:00 List-Id: In article <9j7iug$eb2$1@nh.pace.co.uk>, Marin David Condic wrote: > That's an interesting definition of "portable". There's ***UNIX***!!! and > there's a handful of insignificant, unimportant, irrelavent "others". Would > you think it at all important that code be able to port to the millions of > "other" machines out there that run non-Unix OS's, like OS/2, MVS, VMS, > MacOS, and (dare I say it?) Windows? I'd bet that there are more non-Unix > platforms (taken as a sum) than there are Unix platforms - or at least it > would be a really big number to be ignoring. It would be like us VMS bigots > saying "Yea, my software runs on *both* kinds of computers - VAXs *and* > Alphas." (Not much of a challenge, is it? :-) > > True portability is, of course, extremely hard to achieve. But defining the > problem out of existence doesn't seem fair. Microsoft breaks compatibility on purpose. If there were MSAda, you couldn't just recompile MSAda programs on other Ada compiler. Java wars just confirmed it. Unices are the only family of OSes that have real standards, followed by many OSes.