From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,78716f2030cb1b34 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-19 03:15:10 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!aaanet.ru!not-for-mail From: "Gary Lisyansky" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Good Bye Java Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:12:13 +0400 Organization: AAA Intersvyaz Message-ID: <9j6bq5$2e4q$1@pa.aaanet.ru> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.59.110.211 X-Trace: pa.aaanet.ru 995537541 80026 213.59.110.211 (19 Jul 2001 10:12:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.aaanet.ru NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Jul 2001 10:12:21 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10238 Date: 2001-07-19T10:12:21+00:00 List-Id: "Robert C. Leif, Ph.D." wrote in message news:mailman.995522784.25875.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org... > From: Bob Leif > To: All > > Evidently, Sun's control of Java gave Microsoft the opening it needed. > > First there was C, then C++, then Java, and now maybe C#. We Ada people can > watch and laugh. However, Java should have taught us the power of marketing. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ------ > Microsoft pulls back support for Java, in blow to rival technology MS doesn't really support Java since 1997 or 1998. The current MS Java Machine shipped with MSIE is effectively '97 mangled Java 1.1 and has never been updated since. The current version of Java is Java 2 v. 1.4, and users who would like to run Java applications and applets needed to download JRE, JDK or Java plug- in for a while. So, it doesn't change anything. Indirectly, it may even *promote* Sun JVM, because previously users who encountered Java 1.0 or Java 1.1 applets didn't need to download it, and now they will. Given it's no more difficult to install than most of other plug- ins, MS really achieves nothing. Gary > > By John R. Wilke and Don Clark > THE WALL STREET JOURNAL > > "PRERELEASE COPIES of Microsoft�s new Windows XP operating system, which > goes on sale this fall, drop the software needed to run Java-based programs. > (MSNBC is a Microsoft-NBC joint venture). Java software is used to create > some of the animated and interactive features of Web pages and hand-held > devices; Web surfers using computers with Windows XP won�t see those > features without loading additional software." > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/601794.asp#BODY > >