From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,be23df8e7e275d73 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-18 07:56:23 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: An Ada IDE and discussions Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 10:12:48 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9j45h0$3ho$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <0zS27.187213$DG1.31590366@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com> <3B4FEFDE.10E7B423@snafu.de> <9iuvsd$361$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9j12ic$bvi$1@s1.read.news.oleane.net> <9j1ee8$258$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9j21sv$9ka$1@nh.pace.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 995465568 3640 136.170.200.133 (18 Jul 2001 14:12:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jul 2001 14:12:48 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10156 Date: 2001-07-18T14:12:48+00:00 List-Id: I think we agree wholeheartedly on the objective you outlined. We both want to see Ada accepted at a greater level than it is. I think we both agree that the presence of lots of Ada code available for development serves this goal. I think we also both agree that your garden variety hacker, small business, internal corporate developer, etc. ought to be able to get the source, use it in their software, modify it as needed, etc. and not have to pay a royalty. (That's what will get Ada accepted for various forms of internal development.) Where I think we part company (correct me if I'm wrong) is that I believe a different license is possible/desirable that secures some financial rights for the authors of a work in the event that someone takes their work & uses it for financial gain. If I understand you correctly, you seem to be favoring the GPL which basically does not secure those rights - or at least has not dealt with that question. I might be willing to contribute to some community accessible code, but I'd like to think that if I'm spending time on it that there is some $$$ in it for me if someone else is going to take my work and make $$$ for themselves with it. Otherwise, it seems I'm just making a gift to "The Community" of my time and talent. Granted, I may receive other people's gifts to the community by way of picking up their changes, but I think that from a cost/benefit analysis in most cases, I may be better off simply purchasing what I want rather than paying for it with sweat equity. (My time is worth a considerable amount of money when compared to the cost of many commercially available products.) Or I could simply take and never give back and turn a hard heart towards the community contributors when they cry "Unfair!" :-) (Hint: That's why currency and markets and free enterprise and trade were invented in the first place! :-) MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Pascal Obry" wrote in message news:uu20an3i8.fsf@wanadoo.fr... > > Ok if you need a better reason. I think that Ada is not that visible in the > software world. The work we can put together (all of us) are to make Ada more > visible, more accepted and (we can dream) have Ada sometime be the most > popular language :) Of course I'm not completly stupid, I don't see that this > comming year but next year :-) > > Just look five years ago, the Ada world was not the same at all and one reason > is that there is many good piece of GPL code under Ada. >