From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-16 09:16:45 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: is ada dead? Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:38:20 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9iv1pd$3va$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <3B460DA9.C2965042@ix.netcom.com> <9ff447f2.0107061757.34ca0723@posting.google.com> <3B475678.C582735D@worldnet.att.net> <3b478165_3@news3.prserv.net> <3b48d207_1@news3.prserv.net> <3B51DD8A.9FBCA84F@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 995297901 4074 136.170.200.133 (16 Jul 2001 15:38:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jul 2001 15:38:21 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9999 Date: 2001-07-16T15:38:21+00:00 List-Id: One of the things that would go a long way to countering the misinformation and overcoming the objections about tools, etc, would be to have an inexpensive development toolkit sitting on the shelf next to the C++ environments with equivalent & better features at a competitive price. Part of the problem is visibility and part of the problem is the (IMHO, very sound) argument that by picking C++ or Java or some other language, a businessman can leverage all the stuff that comes with its toolkit (GUI builders, debuggers, library tools, class libraries, etc.) to get to market quicker than can be done with Ada. Ada has historically concentrated on reducing lifecycle costs, which is a real advantage. However, a very large chunk of the market doesn't care about the lifecycle. They care about time to market. Right or wrong, that's what people are buying. Ada has to sell that or it will remain "irrelavent" in terms of the bulk market. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Lao Xiao Hai" wrote in message news:3B51DD8A.9FBCA84F@ix.netcom.com... > > > We also have to do a better job of countering minsinformation. Among the idiotic > things I have heard recently. "Boeing is going to convert the B777 avionics code > to C++." "The FAA has abandoned Ada. It no longer plans to do any new development > in Ada." "The transition to Ada 95 is too expensive. We plan to convert our code > to C++." "There are no development tools for Ada. We are going to use C++ and > Java." Oh, and this one is still around. "Ada is too expensive. The cost/benefit of > Ada is not offset by Ada's being a better language. We can build software just as > well and for less money than it would cost to use Ada." >